??????????? ?????????????????QA manager??????. ???????????????? ????????????????. ???????? QA???????????????RD?. ????????????Microsoft??QA manager??ο??????????.
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??????????????????????????????. ??????QA?????RD????????壬 ??????????????. ?????????????????? ?????????????RD???QA???????? ????????????? ??????????QA???.
?????????????????????RD?дcode?? ????QA????. ???QA?????????дcode?? ???automation????????????????. ?????QA??????????????QA manager??????￡? ?????shipment?? schedule?? ?????????????????????.
?????????????????????QA?? ?????????team???棬 ?????л??????invent?? investigate and discover?? ????????г??.
????????????????QA???????????? ???????л????????. ???????????focus ??test cases execution??ship schedule?? ????????????
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????calkelpdiver said:
????????QA?????????????
????(1)  lack of credibility & respect?? lack of pay?? lack of support?? insane work schedules?? finger pointing
????(2) getting the opportunity to do new and innovate things in this line of work doesn't come often for the average tester in the average company (Microsoft?? and other large shops may be different).
????(3) Want to earn more money (RD's pay is higher)
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????swn1 said:
???????????????????????: rotation
????Assign testers to development teams?? assign developers to test rotations.
????Developers became very conscious of the need for documentable designs?? meaningful messages?? and such. And customers were shocked to have the phone answered by someone who understood and could actually fix their problem.  Good for everyone.
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????ru_altom said:
?????????rotation??????У? ???????
????(1) ?????????RD????????QA?? QA ?????????RD
????(2) RD ??QA??mindset????? A tester will write code to break someone else's code?? while a developer will aim to write unbreakable code.
?????????????JW??????:
????Innovation is the best way to keep your testers (and developers as well) content and at their best. Give them a chance to invent?? to find new ways?? to try their ideas - and they won't leave?? not for another department and not for another company.